Wade & Webb Family History

John Allen Suttle1826–1891

Justice of the Peace. Alabama · Rockford · Rockford Cemetery

John Allen Suttle lived in Coosa County, Alabama, where he served in the Home Guard during the Civil War and was several times a justice of the peace. A Missionary Baptist for many years, he changed to the Primitive Baptists and became a preacher, and the grave indexes remember him as Elder John Allen Suttle. He married Rebecca Ann E. Bently in 1852 and, after her death, Mary J. Carlisle in 1875, and he died at Rockford in 1891.

On this page
  1. Family Record
  2. Life
  3. Documents (1)
  4. Places
  5. Timeline
  6. Open questions
  7. Notes

Birth

  1. 17 May 1826 Coosa, Alabama 1

Marriages

  1. 21 Sep 1875 Mary Josephine Carlisle, at Coosa, Alabama 9
  2. 14 Nov 1852 Rebecca Ann Emeline Bentley, at Coosa, Alabama 3

Death and burial

  1. Oct 1891 Burial: Rockford Cemetery, Rockford, Coosa, Alabama
  2. 12 Oct 1891 Death: Rockford, Coosa, Alabama 14

Family

Parents
Not recorded
Marriage 1, 21 Sep 1875
Mary Josephine Carlisle 1838–1916
Children
Robert Allen Suttle 1876–1945
William M Suttle 1878–?
Clara Suttle 1882–?
Anna B Suttle 1880–1906
Marriage 2, 14 Nov 1852
Rebecca Ann Emeline Bentley 1833–1874

Line of descent Webb line

  1. John Allen Suttle
  2. Husband of Mary Josephine Carlisle
  3. Clarrissa Jane Carlisle
  4. James Pleasant Webb, son
  5. Hilda Webb, daughter
  6. William Albert Webb Wade, son

Husband of great-grandaunt of Webb Wade, from whom this history is traced. Why Webb Wade?

Life

John Allen Suttle, whose surname is also written Suttles, was born on 17 May 1826, according to the FamilySearch tree, which gives no source for the date and places his birth in Coosa County, Alabama.1 Inference Coosa County was not created until 1832, so the place is at best the later name of his birthplace.1 The federal census of 1850 lists John Suttles in the household of William Suttles in Coosa County.2

On 14 November 1852 John A. Suttle married Rebecca Ann E. Bently in Coosa County; the tree gives her years as 1833 to 1874.3 George E. Brewer's history of Coosa County, published in 1942, says in a sketch of him that his first wife Rebecca was a daughter of Hiram Bentley and that with her he "reared several good children."4 The census of 1860 lists him in the Southern Division of Coosa County.5 During the Civil War, according to the tree, he served in 1862 in Major Reedy's Mounted Infantry Company of the Coosa County Home Guard and was detailed to Company B at Camp Watts, Macon County, Alabama; the tree gives no source for the fact, but entries in Ancestry's collection of Alabama Civil War soldiers are attached to his profile.6 A home guard was a local force raised for defence within the state rather than for service with the field armies.6 He appears in the Alabama state census of 1866 and the voter registration of 1867.7 The tree records his appointments in Coosa County as justice of the peace in 1865–66, 1884 and 1889 and as registrar in 1875 and 1888, and entries in Ancestry's collection of Alabama civil appointments are attached to his profile.8

On 21 September 1875, the year after the death the tree records for his first wife, he married Mary J. Carlisle, Mary Josephine, a daughter of Robert Whatley Carlisle and Clarissa Ann Mitchell Owens, in Coosa County.9 Brewer calls his second wife "a daughter of Rev. Robert Carlisle, a prominent Primitive Baptist preacher," and says that she was "a good wife, looking well to his comfort in his feebleness," and that "several useful sons and daughters were born to them."10 The tree names four children of the second marriage, born between 1876 and 1882: Robert Allen, William M., Anna B. and Clara Suttle.11 The census of 1880 lists him at Rockford, Coosa County.12

According to Brewer, "John was for a good many years a Missionary Baptist, but changed to the Primitives and became a preacher."13 The Primitive Baptists, also called Old School Baptists, had separated from the Missionary Baptists in opposing missionary societies and other church organisations not found in the New Testament.13 He died at Rockford on 12 October 1891 and was buried in the Rockford Cemetery; the Find a Grave and BillionGraves indexes both enter him as "Elder John Allen Suttle," Elder being the title the Primitive Baptists gave their ministers.14 The death records of his son Robert Allen Suttle in 1945 and of Rhoda Jane Nolen in 1934 name a John Suttle as father.15 Inference Rhoda Jane Nolen is not among the children the tree records for him and may be a daughter of the first marriage, which the tree leaves without children although Brewer says it had several.15

Documents

  1. 1942 History of Coosa County: Rev. Robert Carlisle, Primitive Baptist preacher near Mount Olive George E. Brewer, "History of Coosa County, Alabama," The Alabama Historical Quarterly, vol. 4, nos. 1–2 (Montgomery, Alabama, Spring and Summer 1942) · book

Places

  1. 1826–1889Coosa
  2. 1880–1891Rockford
  3. 1891Rockford Cemetery

Timeline

  1. 17 May 1826BirthCoosa, Alabama
  2. 1850ResidenceCoosa county, Coosa, Alabama
  3. 14 Nov 1852Marriage, Rebecca Ann Emeline BentleyCoosa, Alabama
  4. 1860ResidenceSouthern Division, Coosa, Alabama
  5. 1862Military service: John Allen served in Major Reedy's Mounted Infantry Company Coosa Alabama Home Guard, detailed to Company B Camp Watts Macon Alabama.
  6. 1866ResidenceCoosa, Alabama
  7. 1870ResidenceAlabama
  8. 21 Sep 1875Marriage, Mary Josephine CarlisleCoosa, Alabama
  9. 1880ResidenceRockford, Coosa, Alabama
  10. Oct 1891BurialRockford Cemetery, Rockford, Coosa, Alabama
  11. 12 Oct 1891DeathRockford, Coosa, Alabama

Open questions

None recorded yet.

Notes

  1. FamilySearch Family Tree, profile KGCD-LSB: birth 17 May 1826, Coosa, Alabama, no source attached; no parents recorded; alternate name John Allen or A Suttles or Suttle back to the text
  2. "United States, Census, 1850", FamilySearch, John Suttles in entry for William Suttles, 1850. Record: John Suttles in entry for William Suttles, 1850 FamilySearch Family Tree, profile KGCD-LSB: residence 1850, Coosa county, Alabama back to the text
  3. "Alabama County Marriages, 1711-1992", FamilySearch, John A. Suttle and Rebecca Ann E. Bently, 14 Nov 1852. Record: John A. Suttle and Rebecca Ann E. Bently, 14 Nov 1852 "Alabama, Marriages, 1816-1957", FamilySearch, John A. Suttle, 14 Nov 1852. Record: John A. Suttle, 14 Nov 1852 FamilySearch Family Tree, profile KGCD-LSB: spouse Rebecca Ann Emeline Bentley (1833–1874), marriage 14 Nov 1852, Coosa back to the text
  4. History of Coosa County: Rev. Robert Carlisle, Primitive Baptist preacher near Mount Olive, George E. Brewer, "History of Coosa County, Alabama," The Alabama Historical Quarterly, vol. 4, nos. 1–2 (Montgomery, Alabama, Spring and Summer 1942): John married Rebecca, a daughter of Hiram Bentley, as his first wife, by whom he reared several good children (p. 244) back to the text
  5. "United States, Census, 1860", FamilySearch, John A Suttle, 1860. Record: John A Suttle, 1860 FamilySearch Family Tree, profile KGCD-LSB: residence 1860, Southern Division, Coosa, Alabama back to the text
  6. FamilySearch Family Tree, profile KGCD-LSB: military service 1862: John Allen served in Major Reedy's Mounted Infantry Company Coosa Alabama Home Guard, detailed to Company B Camp Watts Macon Alabama; no source attached to the event ancestry Record: Alabama Civil War Soldiers 1860-1865 ancestry Record: Alabama Civil War Soldiers 1860-1865 back to the text
  7. "Alabama, State Census, 1866", FamilySearch, John A Suttle, 1866. Record: John A Suttle, Alabama, State Census, 1866 "Alabama, State Census, 1866", FamilySearch, John A Suttle, 1866. Record: John A Suttle, 1866 ancestry Record: Alabama Voter Registration 1867 back to the text
  8. FamilySearch Family Tree, profile KGCD-LSB: occupation Justice of the Peace 1865–1866, 1884, 1889; Registrar 1875, 1888; Coosa, Alabama Ancestry Record: Alabama Civil Appointments 1818-1939 ancestry Record: Alabama Civil Appointments 1818-1939 back to the text
  9. "Alabama County Marriages, 1711-1992", FamilySearch, John A. Suttle and Mary J. Carlisle, 21 Sep 1875. Record: John A. Suttle and Mary J. Carlisle, 21 Sep 1875 "Alabama, Marriages, 1816-1957", FamilySearch, John A. Suttle, 21 Sep 1875. Record: John A. Suttle, 21 Sep 1875 FamilySearch Family Tree, profile KJZD-D2J (their page): parents Robert Whatley Carlisle and Clarissa Ann Mitchell Owens FamilySearch Family Tree, profile KGCD-LSB: Rebecca Ann Emeline Bentley (1833–1874) back to the text
  10. History of Coosa County: Rev. Robert Carlisle, Primitive Baptist preacher near Mount Olive, George E. Brewer, "History of Coosa County, Alabama," The Alabama Historical Quarterly, vol. 4, nos. 1–2 (Montgomery, Alabama, Spring and Summer 1942): His second wife was a daughter of Rev. Robert Carlisle, a prominent Primitive Baptist preacher. She was a good wife, looking well to his comfort in his feebleness. Several useful sons and daughters were born to them (p. 244) back to the text
  11. FamilySearch Family Tree, profile KGCD-LSB: children: Robert Allen (1876–1945), William M (1878), Anna B (1880–1906), Clara (1882) back to the text
  12. "United States, Census, 1880", FamilySearch, John A. Suttle, 1880. Record: John A. Suttle, 1880 FamilySearch Family Tree, profile KGCD-LSB: residence 1880, Rockford, Coosa, Alabama back to the text
  13. History of Coosa County: Rev. Robert Carlisle, Primitive Baptist preacher near Mount Olive, George E. Brewer, "History of Coosa County, Alabama," The Alabama Historical Quarterly, vol. 4, nos. 1–2 (Montgomery, Alabama, Spring and Summer 1942): John was for a good many years a Missionary Baptist, but changed to the Primitives and became a preacher (p. 244) back to the text
  14. FamilySearch Family Tree, profile KGCD-LSB: death 12 Oct 1891, Rockford, Coosa, Alabama; burial Oct 1891, Rockford Cemetery "Find a Grave Index", FamilySearch, Elder John Allen Suttle. Record: Elder John Allen Suttle, Find a Grave Index "BillionGraves Index", FamilySearch, Elder John A Suttle. Record: Elder John A Suttle, BillionGraves Index History of Coosa County: Rev. Robert Carlisle, Primitive Baptist preacher near Mount Olive, George E. Brewer, "History of Coosa County, Alabama," The Alabama Historical Quarterly, vol. 4, nos. 1–2 (Montgomery, Alabama, Spring and Summer 1942): changed to the Primitives and became a preacher back to the text
  15. "Alabama, Deaths, 1908-1974", FamilySearch, John Suttle in entry for Robert Allen Suttle, 1945. Record: John Suttle in entry for Robert Allen Suttle, 1945 "Alabama, Deaths, 1908-1974", FamilySearch, John Suttle in entry for Rhoda Jane Nolen, 15 Jun 1934. Record: John Suttle in entry for Rhoda Jane Nolen, 15 Jun 1934 FamilySearch Family Tree, profile KGCD-LSB: no children recorded with Rebecca Ann Emeline Bentley History of Coosa County: Rev. Robert Carlisle, Primitive Baptist preacher near Mount Olive, George E. Brewer, "History of Coosa County, Alabama," The Alabama Historical Quarterly, vol. 4, nos. 1–2 (Montgomery, Alabama, Spring and Summer 1942): by whom he reared several good children back to the text
Every FamilySearch record attached to John Allen Suttle (30)
  1. 1850John Suttles, "United States, Census, 1850"
  2. 14 Nov 1852John A. Suttle, "Alabama County Marriages, 1809-1950"
  3. 14 Nov 1852John A. Suttle, "Alabama, Marriages, 1816-1957"
  4. 1852John A. Suttle, "Alabama, Marriages, 1816-1957"
  5. 1852John A. Suttle, "Alabama, Marriages, 1816-1957"
  6. 1860John A Suttle, "United States, Census, 1860"
  7. 1866John A Suttle, "Alabama, State Census, 1866"
  8. 1866John A Suttle, "Alabama, State Census, 1866"
  9. 1870J A Suttle, "United States, Census, 1870"
  10. 21 Sep 1875John A. Suttle, "Alabama County Marriages, 1711-1992"
  11. 21 Sep 1875John A. Suttle, "Alabama, Marriages, 1816-1957"
  12. 1875John A. Suttle, "Alabama, Marriages, 1816-1957"
  13. 1880John A. Suttle, "United States, Census, 1880"
  14. 15 Jun 1934John Suttle, "Alabama, Deaths, 1908-1974"
  15. 1945John Suttle, "Alabama, Deaths, 1908-1974"
  16. Alabama Civil Appointments 1818-1939
  17. Alabama Civil Appointments 1818-1939
  18. Alabama Civil Appointments 1818-1939
  19. Alabama Civil Appointments 1818-1939
  20. Alabama Civil Appointments 1818-1939
  21. Alabama Civil Appointments 1818-1939
  22. Alabama Civil War Soldiers 1860-1865
  23. Alabama Civil War Soldiers 1860-1865
  24. Alabama Civil War Soldiers 1860-1865
  25. Alabama Civil War Soldiers 1860-1865
  26. Alabama State Census 1820-1866
  27. Alabama Voter Registration 1867
  28. Elder John A Suttle, "BillionGraves Index"
  29. Elder John Allen Suttle, "Find a Grave Index"
  30. 14 Nov 1852Entry for John A. Suttle and Rebecca Ann E. Bently, "Alabama County Marriages, 1809-1950"